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Andy Richardson

Thursday Night Recap

Seahawks edge Cards with lots of good and bad

Pretty entertaining game last night, with tons of moments both good and bad. Often from the same players. Lots to talk about so let's get to it.

QUARTERBACKS

I've got to start with much-maligned Sam Darnold. Is it just me, or is he a really talented quarterback? Some of last night's throws were as pretty as anything you'll see from anyone playing today; seriously. The touchdown to Barner, a bomb to Tory Horton that could have been caught. An impressive drive just before the half, with a couple of great throws and a heady 24-yard scramble, with the drive ending in a touchdown run that put Seattle up 14-3. The second half wasn't as good, but there was some bad luck with penalties, and he did put together the game-winning field goal drive (twice; one of the field goals was missed). As usual, he took 3 sacks and fumbled once (though it was recovered). But he was also the main reason they won last night.

I am well aware of how things ended for him with the Jets, Panthers and Vikings. Severe faceplants. And yet, one of those teams is definitely still looking for a quarterback, a number of years and draft picks and expensive contracts later, and Carolina and the Vikings might be. (We can argue them, but it's debatable if Bryce and J.J. are or will be franchise quarterbacks.) I believe Darnold will be Seattle's starting quarterback for the next 5-plus years, and they might be winning a suddenly tough division with him this year.

Kyler Murray deserved better. Neither interception was his fault, with his receiver stopping his route on one and gift-wrapping the other off his hands (we'll get to that receiver, named Marvin Harison Jr., shortly). I'll stop short of saying Murray had a good game, because there's just something off there. He nearly had a big early downfield play to Michael Wilson but underthrew it. There was another play where he was fortunate not to throw a Pick Six on a little screen pass. His size (and vision as a result) works against him at times. But he brought his team back into a game that looked kind of over at halftime, despite not a lot of help from the players around him, facing a really good defense.

Fantasy-wise, neither of these quarterbacks is great. Both offenses seem to want to run the ball, both teams are capable or better defensively. Seattle in particular is going to be playing mostly lower-scoring games. So that's a negative. Objectively, perhaps Arizona would like to be a little better at quarterback; Murray has limitations. But these are probably their guys.

RUNNING BACK

I started Trey Benson in a standard scoring league last night, so not good (5.4 points). He caught 5 passes, making him more serviceable in PPR, but then Emari Demercado was on the field to catch a short touchdown in the final minute. About a 60-40 snap split between the two. But aside from not getting that touchdown, I saw nothing concerning with Benson. Ran hard and had one nifty 12-yard run, caught all 5 passes thrown his way. Problem was just that Arizona fell behind 14-3 and didn't run it enough (Benson finished with just 8 carries). Next four are against the Titans, Colts, Packers and Cowboys; at least three of those look promising, and maybe all four. Still in on Benson.

I've had some negative things to say about Zach Charbonnet in the past. My opinions of his inefficient running -- damn lucky to score a short touchdown last night, with it seeming like he should have walked in easily, getting stuffed, then scoring due to a second effort / being pushed by a teammate -- remain. He also had a second touchdown wiped out by a ticky-tack holding penalty, or this game wouldn't have been close. Seattle seems to prefer him in short-yardage and near the goal line, so those of us with Kenneth Walker just need to accept it and deal. Walker with the ball in his hands and in open space looks dramatically better, more big-play potential, with a 21-yard run and a sweet 29-yard catch and run last night that was close to going for a long touchdown. But arguing with Mike Macdonald is pointless; he knows what he's doing with these backs.

The fantasy implications are clear: both guys are going to play, they split snaps almost right down the middle last night (33-31, officially), and they might finish the year with a similar number of touchdowns. Charbonnet, for his goal-line and receiving work, might be the better fantasy option in a lot of games, even if Walker is the better NFL back. It is what it is, leaving both players slightly wanting as a lineup choice. At least they'll be emphasizing the run, so probably a lot of games where both are good (if not great). Eventually one will miss time due to injury, and the other will be awesome. Walker missed a series last night (the one Zach scored on) after a silly taunting penalty (the other guy started it!), or maybe it would have been Charbonnet anyway.

WIDE RECEIVERS

Imagine if you only watched the second half of last night's game. This Marvin Harrison Jr. dude is awesome! He caught all 5 passes thrown his way for 58 yards and a slick touchdown against tight coverage. If you instead watched only the first half, where Harrison had a single 8-yard catch and 1) turned the wrong way on a play, 2) stopped his route on a ball that was easily intercepted, and 3) allowed a perfect throw to bounce off both his hands for another interception, you'd think he should be immediately benched for the duration.

Which leaves us where? Well, Arizona lost, and Harrison's miscues were part of sticking the Cardinals in their early hole (although one of the picks was immediately fumbled back). But at least he finished strong, so maybe that's the confidence boost he and his quarterback needed, so it'll be all gravy going forward. Strange to think that a top-5 draft pick with a Hall of Fame father should need a confidence boost, but football is a tough game. I think we can say with confidence he's not going to be the next Ja'Marr Chase, Larry Fitzgerald, or Marvin Harrison. But maybe he can be an actual No. 1 for Arizona. If we squint during the first half and play up the second.

Certainly, he has zero competition in Arizona. Michael Wilson caught 3 passes for 15 yards. That constitutes a good night for the little-used No. 2. I was surprised by how busy Greg Dortch was. He looked pretty quick catching 4 short passes over the middle, though they really didn't impact the game all that much (35 yards). Uneven performance and all, Harrison is quite clearly the only wide receiver here anyone should be rostering.

A tale of two halves also for Jaxon Smith-Njigba. Not even targeted the first half, with a 2-yard run his only play. Stepped up late to salvage things with a pair of huge grabs and ultimately 4 for 79, Disappointing I know, but could have been worse. He's the guy and he's great. Will have more good games than quiet ones, even with the team preferring to run the ball.

Cooper Kupp will not. I don't think he's totally washed, but it's weird that Seattle paid so much to sign him. He'll catch some short passes in the red zone and make some key blocks. That's it. Tory Horton had one really impressive early reception where he fought for extra yards, setting up a 4th and short that didn't get converted. He got mostly open for a long bomb that he could/should have caught; awesome throw, nearly came up with it. Gotta like Horton long-term. But only 2 targets last night, making it hard to understand how you could reasonably put him in a lineup.

Trey McBride wrecked a parlay of mine last night, finishing 7 for 52, 5 for 39 of which came before halftime. He's a beast, with a couple of huge grabs on a second-quarter drive -- one really impressive sideline catch -- that ended with the Harrison, I mean, Murray, interception. A few more catches and yards in the second half would have been nice, but I don't think anyone who drafted McBride should feel bad. Looks like the team's best receiver, again.

The coaching staffs and players change, but looks like Seattle will always have multiple tight ends involved. Both Elijah Arroyo and AJ Barner move really well for tight ends; frequently I was watching them getting confused about who I was seeing. Barner ran a sweet route to catch a perfect throw for Seattle's first touchdown. Arroyo looks like he needs to be more involved, with a 32-yard catch, a nice little screen play, and just looking quicker than the guys trying to tackle him. But with both playing more than half the time and both seeing targets, it's hard to see either one having a 5-catch game anytime soon. Easy to see why they moved on from Noah Fant, though.

MISCELLANEOUS

While McBride didn't get enough yards, one bet that worked out was Seattle getting points. Sure it was tied late, but Seattle looks like the better team and the one that's going to be a contender in the NFC West all year. Strong defense, talented quarterback, depth at running back and receiver (including the tight ends). ... The new "landing zone" rules impacted the outcome, with Arizona kicker Chad Ryland nailing a 57-yard field goal but botching the final kickoff after Arizona's tying touchdown with 28 seconds left, giving Seattle the ball at the 40-yard line, which these days is just about 15 yards away from field goal range. Costly mistake. ... I wasn't even aware that Michael Carter was still on the Cardinals until he came in last night to try to convert a third and short that got stuffed. Coming as it did right before the Seattle drive that made it 14-3, kind of a big moment to be using your third- (fourth pre-James Conner injury) string running back.

Ultimately, pretty good game, and I think it's going to be wild NFC West this year. Some pretty good team or two is not going to win this division and not going to make the playoffs.

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