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Norv Turner

Is long-time coach the right fit for Panthers?

The Panthers are handing over their offense to Norv Turner. They fired Mike Shula (which I had no problem with) but I wonder if Turner’s still a capable coordinator? He’s 65, and it’s possible his approach has gotten stale as the game has evolved.

Turner, of course, won some Super Bowls with the Cowboys in the ‘90s, drawing up plays for Aikman, Emmitt and Irvin. But that was a long time ago. Robert Jones, for example, was a linebacker on that team, and now he son is playing in the league (as a wide receiver for the Bills).

When we last saw Turner, he was arguing with Mike Zimmer and then abruptly re-signing halfway through the 2016 season. He spent last year out of football.

Turner tends to like to use more deep passes than most coaches, asking quarterbacks to take deep drops and hold the ball longer. But I wonder if such an approach would work in Carolina. The Panthers don’t really have the right kind of wide receivers for that offense, and pass protection could be an issue.

In each of Turner’s last four full seasons, his offenses have allowed at least 45 sacks. Are we just signing up Cam Newton to take a bunch of hits? And using standard fantasy scoring, none of his last five offenses have ranked in the top 10 in passing production. (On the chart here, “points” is passing production using 6 points for touchdown passes and 1 for every 10 yards. “Rank” shows how the team finished 1 thru 32 in each of those seasons.)

NORV TURNER OFFENSES (PASSING)
YearTeamPctYardsTDIntSacPointsRk
1997Washington51.7%3,581222233490.113
1998Washington53.8%3,724241461516.410
1999Washington60.3%4,112261431567.26
2000Washington61.1%3,892182132497.213
2001San Diego56.4%3,685161827464.519
2002Miami 59.6%3,069181525414.927
2003Miami 57.1%3,001171931402.125
2004Oakland 56.7%4,019242230545.911
2005Oakland 53.5%3,883211445514.310
2006San Francisco 57.9%2,890161636385.029
2007San Diego 59.7%3,175221624449.523
2008San Diego 65.3%4,009341125604.93
2009San Diego 65.1%4,506291026624.66
2010San Diego 66.0%4,746301338654.63
2011San Diego 62.9%4,624272030624.47
2012San Diego 64.0%3,606261549516.616
2013Cleveland 55.7%4,372262049593.212
2014Minnesota 62.3%3,244171851426.427
2015Minnesota 64.8%3,24614945408.631
2016Minnesota 70.4%4,11920538531.919

Turner has had a lot of success with running backs in the past – Emmitt Smith, LaDainian Tomlinson, Terry Allen, Stephen Davis – but his offenses have tailed off in that regard. Only two of his last eight teams have had an 800-yard rusher.

Looking at his last 20 teams (I don’t care what he did with Dallas in the early ‘90s), only 25 percent of those teams ranked in the top 10 in rushing. Three of his last five have ranked higher than 30th.

NORV TURNER OFFENSES (RUSHING)
YearTeamAttYardsAvgTDPointsRk
1997Washington4531,6153.612233.520
1998Washington4011,6854.215258.514
1999Washington4632,0394.423341.91
2000Washington4451,7483.914258.819
2001San Diego4351,6953.913247.514
2002Miami 5302,5024.724394.22
2003Miami 4871,8173.714265.716
2004Oakland 3271,2954.010189.532
2005Oakland 3611,3693.811202.925
2006San Francisco 4382,1725.012289.212
2007San Diego 4852,0394.219317.93
2008San Diego 4211,7264.113250.621
2009San Diego 4271,4233.317244.318
2010San Diego 4571,8104.018289.010
2011San Diego 4361,8644.316282.411
2012San Diego 4111,4613.64170.130
2013Cleveland 3481,3834.04162.332
2014Minnesota 4131,8044.412252.417
2015Minnesota 4742,2114.718329.13
2016Minnesota 3801,2053.29174.532

It’s early. I’m not exactly sure what Turner’s going to try to do. But I’m not overly optimistic about Carolina’s offense.

—Ian Allan

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