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Andy Richardson

Thursday Night Recap

Another last-gasp thriller

I remember a time when most of these Thursday contests weren't very good. Feels like they were usually low-scoring, sloppy. We've now got two great ones in row, where the winner was decided on the final kick (last night it was decided on the final kick twice). It wasn't all good, with lots of penalties along the way, but a fun one to watch.

QUARTERBACKS

I probably said an unkind thing or two about Daniel Jones last week. Fair play to him, Jones played pretty well in this game. His runs were well-timed (unfortunate to lose a second rushing touchdown on a holding penalty that was unnecessary), he made a couple of really nice throws, and really should have had the game-clinching touchdown on Darius Slayton, but Slayton dropped it. Don't tell me it was slightly overthrown. It floated to him and hit his entire hands. Gotta be caught. If Jones can have this productive a game against a tough Washington defense, he'll have more good ones. Bad news for the Giants is that after hosting Atlanta in Week 3, they've got a mostly rough schedule for the next eight games: at New Orleans, at Dallas, L.A. Rams, at Kansas City and at Tampa Bay in five of them. Home games against Carolina and Las Vegas in the others.

Taylor Heinicke was up and down. The good is that he made a lot of strong, accurate throws, both during the game and especially under heavy pressure on the final, game-winning drive. Throwing quick darts to his receivers in a sequence that didn't look like it was going to work out. Frustrating to watch for Giants fans, especially considering they seemingly had the game won after an inexcusable Heinicke interception, and then seemingly won again after a missed field goal. Giants were offsides on it, just barely I guess; pretty tight call. But if you were overly worried about Washington pass catchers going from Ryan Fitzpatrick to Heinicke, no need. He's got some Fitzpatrick to his game, and indeed made a couple of throws I'm not sure Fitzpatrick even makes.

RUNNING BACKS

This was a better outing for Saquon Barkley than Week 1. Busted a longer run, had a couple of near-miss plays where he slipped down. He doesn't look like himself yet, but he got through it OK should be better in Week 3. He also played over 80 percent of the snaps, which is encouraging.

The problem is that the offensive line isn't good, it lost a starter during the game, and the avenue just doesn't seem to be there for Barkley to have any kind of big weekly performance. When I saw I was facing him last night I was kind of happy about it. It looks like most Giants rushing touchdowns will be scored by Daniel Jones; they're not going to opening holes for Barkley near the goal line. The offense doesn't seem to be making good use of him as a receiver. At what point is he going to be putting up 120-total-yard games with a touchdown? Some matchups, maybe.

Different problems for Antonio Gibson. Good running back, I was very high on him entering the season. But if it's always going to be J.D. McKissic in hurry-up situations, it will be frustrating, because that receiving production is critical. Washington doesn't look like it will be pounding in a lot of rushing scores either. That was a good Giants defensive front, but so is Buffalo next week. Ultimately it feels like Washington isn't going to work the run enough, but maybe it's too soon to be concerned. Unfortunately McKissic looked really good last night, including having the biggest play of the game down the sideline, so the 60-40 split we saw will likely crop up again.

WIDE RECEIVERS

Terry McLaurin looks like one of the game's very best wide receivers. He just abused James Bradberry last night, right up until the end where Bradberry baited Heinicke into an interception. But McLaurin was reeling in catches even with Bradberry all over him all game long. Impressive stuff. Anyone who was concerned about McLaurin being hurt by going from Fitzpatrick to Heinicke, we can put aside those fears for now.

Similarly, Sterling Shepard looks like the clear No. 1 for the Giants. Is Kenny Golladay more talented, sure. But Golladay is going to be forgotten or well-covered at times, and Jones isn't going to even attempt those throws. Shepard looks like he'll be busy every game, every series. Golladay 3 catches on 8 targets last night, Shepard 9 on 10.

Serviceable PPR outing from Adam Humphries, but hard to feel good about it. The passes generally didn't do much damage (7 for 44 yards) and I think he's more likely to finish 4-5 for 30 in upcoming games than 7-8 for 60. Nobody will look at last night's same and say, We've got to get Humphries more involved. Eventually Curtis Samuel will return (maybe), and it will be at the expense of Humphries. I think. Dyami Brown was more interesting, playing more snaps and (thought he caught only 3 passes) being close to a couple of big plays. I don't know if you can start Dyami, but he looks like a guy who will ultimately hit on some stuff in this offense. If one of these wideouts steps up with big games going forward, it should be him.

For the Giants, I don't really understand the Golladay signing any more now than when he was signed. I think they'd be fine with a Shepard-Darius Slayton (drop excepted) and Kadarius Toney mix out there. Golladay apparently had some words with Jones after missed connection or two. Yes, Kenny, you're not working with Matthew Stafford anymore. Speaking of words, Toney apparently complained after the game about not being involved. Hey, you also missed a good chunk of August, man. Yet another reason Shepard is underrated -- I've never heard him rip his quarterback, his usage, anything.

TIGHT ENDS

Clearly the Giants aren't going to get much out of Kyle Rudolph. Since the team didn't put Evan Engram on IR it apparently thinks he'll be back for Week 3. That will help, and if not it looks like they should use more of Kaden Smith who had the position's biggest play last night.

Logan Thomas has had a quiet start to the season. I think the problem is Washington has a few short-range targets now in addition to Thomas, including McKissic still and also Humphries. At some point they'll have Samuel back. Thomas has some downfield potential, we saw it in the preseason, it's just not sure if those plays will happen with Heinicke as they might have with Fitzpatrick. And the one that did went to second tight end Ricky Seals-Jones (who played all of 7 snaps and had only 1 target; efficient).

KICKERS

Yesterday morning somebody in one of my leagues cut Graham Gano in favor of Robbie Gould. This is why people hate kickers; Gano (after not attempting any field goals in Week 1) kicked 5 field goals including a pair from 50-plus, which worked out to 23.9 points in that league. From a kicker. Dustin Hopkins had my favorite quote of the year so far after missing the game-wining field goal, getting a second chance, and hitting it. "Somebody needs to check on my mother, she's probably had a heart attack."

DEFENSES

It wasn't surprising that both defenses played the run well (aside from Daniel Jones running for 95 yards) or that Washington recorded 4 sacks. It was a little surprising that the Giants didn't come away with more than 1 sack and 1 takeaway against Heinicke, and that both teams allowed 29-30 points. A little disappointing in the case of Washington. Unlikely they'll get a ton off Buffalo in Week 3; Atlanta in Week 4 should be more rewarding.

21 Reader Comments:

Dennis Salisbury

Cranston, RI
2021-09-17T13:40:46Z
Sterling Shepard looks like a different WR this year...quicker and faster? Anyway the move to the slot seems where he is best utilized. K Toney looks like a punk ass player, this is not a good offense for him because of Jason Garrett not knowing how to utilize a gadget player who needs manufactured touches to get going? I am worried about Heinicke throwing concussion balls to his WR/TE's (his throws seemed high) which is eventually hazardous to your health. Can't wait for Houston-Carolina, next Thursday, ha ha!

Andy Richardson

Port Chester, NY
2021-09-17T13:51:53Z
Good point on Heinicke's throws. Definitely threw high, receivers went up and got some of them, but yeah, they are going to yield injuries. The Jason Garrett hire never made much sense.

Yaesha Newman

2021-09-17T13:54:38Z
I watched it a few times. I was wrong, the blame should fall on Slayton, but it was not a well thrown ball with that giant cushion. Slayton had another gear he should have hit. He also ran in a little bit and should have kept going so he clearly doesn’t have the ability to read balls in the air like Locket and McLaurin in week 1 with those sick catches.

Still don’t understand the Jones run. He was beating the guys in the secondary with angles on him. WtF

Andy Richardson

Port Chester, NY
2021-09-17T14:11:20Z
Jones’ throw not perfect but it was good enough. He got clobbered right after releasing it too.

Scott Anderson

Lakewood, CO
2021-09-17T14:29:41Z
Seen on Twitter: "I remember when Saquon Barkley was good. It was the long ago, in the before times." LOL

Richard Kulikowski

Houston, TX
2021-09-17T15:39:29Z
Gibson/McKissic is killing me!!

Alan Satterlee

Weddington, NC
2021-09-17T15:59:21Z
Nice to see McLaurin ball out despite Heinicke at QB.

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Ian Allan

Seattle, WA
2021-09-17T16:25:01Z
These teams are supposed to have too defenses -- top-10 for the Giants, and top 3-4 for Washington. But we're two weeks in, and they haven't really stopped anyone yet. I wouldn't think we should be should trying to avoid playing people against these defenses right now. They posted a nice graphic early on Daniel Jones. He's 4-1 against Washington and 4-20 against everyone else.

Paul Desimone

Hayward, CA
2021-09-17T17:35:48Z
I think that when Rivera looks at McKissic, he sees another "Mc" (CMC) and is smitten. A good chain-mover is being wasted.

Yaesha Newman

2021-09-17T18:14:46Z
Anyone else think the lines on SF over PHi and NO over Car are low?
I would have guessed N.O. would be -7.5 minimum and SF favored by a TD. The saints just embarrassed an MVP and playoff team and Carolina barely beat one of the bottom 3 teams in the league with a rookie QB. I am moving my chips all in this week.

Cody Hager

Portland, OR
2021-09-17T18:25:31Z
@Paul. Funny thing is that Rivera publicly made the same comparison about Gibson.

Andy Richardson

Port Chester, NY
2021-09-17T18:38:36Z
If were betting Eagles-Niners I’d take the Eagles getting 3-4 points, personally.

Paul Desimone

Hayward, CA
2021-09-17T18:40:30Z
Really? A comp between Gibson and CMC? Wow. It sure doesn't show in the usage. That,IS funny.

Bob Gum

Murrells Inlet, SC
2021-09-17T18:45:13Z
I agree with Andy and a Birds win would not be shocking

Ben Hogevoll

Siletz, OR
2021-09-17T18:56:47Z
Is Shepard really the clear #1 Wr on the Giants.I have my doubts and don't even think he is better than Slayton.I know Golladay is as good.Bottom line I picked up Shepard this week off waivers but didn't play him because of the to many mouths to feed.I won't start him until one of the other two gets injured.

Andy Richardson

Port Chester, NY
2021-09-17T19:19:56Z
Shepard’s last four games going back to last season he has 12, 10, 9, and 10 targets. He’s caught 9, 8, 7, and 9 balls, with 4 TDs. Last year he played 11 full games and caught at least 6 passes in 8 of them. What else does he have to do? Not saying he’s more talented than Golladay or Slayton, but he’s definitely the go-to guy.

Chris Jackman

Castle Pines, CO
2021-09-17T21:10:38Z
Agree on the Birds. Not understanding Yeasha’s logic on how SF, who had to hang on to beat the Lions, should be a TD favorite on the road against anyone, much less a team that just won by 26 on the road.

Michael Minarik

New York, NY
2021-09-17T21:37:20Z
Gibson looks like an amazing running back when he actually carries the ball.
Rivera needs to ground and pound more.

Ben Hogevoll

Siletz, OR
2021-09-17T23:27:33Z
What else does he have to do?/He needs to get in the end zone.Slayton doubled him in fantasy points last night and should have buried him with the other long end zone miss.

Andy Richardson

Port Chester, NY
2021-09-18T11:24:49Z
I’ll take the guy who caught seven and nine passes the first two weeks over the guy who caught three and three passes. I agree that Slayton should have caught that ball he dropped.

Yaesha Newman

2021-09-19T01:19:04Z
@chris The 9ers crushed Detroit. The lions scored there points in garbage time. They were up 41-17. I guess people could be excited about the eagles, I think they’re a bottom 7 team.

Saints/Panthers I don’t get.
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